(Yes, there are others, though they are not covered herein.
Watch them, Listen to them, Read them, it is easy to see.)
1) they are trying to discover the higher as they "see it", or
2) they are trying to explain the lower as they "see it."
People want to talk about higher beings, higher places, higher states, and so many other intangibles, or they want to talk about physical matters, earthly matters, people - themselves and everybody else - and their many issues and problems, governments and their faults and flaws, supposed conspiracies interfering with their lives, etc.
People either want to know the wonders of the higher, or
Fix the flaws of the lower, with crossovers back-and-forth, obviously.
(One day it's this, another day it's that, with no relief in sight.)
In both cases, there is always the belief that it requires other people to help them discover, explore, explain these things and more, so they talk to other people, buy many books, join many groups, talk to more people, buy more books, attend seminars and retreats, spend way too much money on all these things, and after all of that, they're still "hard at work" talking to other people, but since "push" has come to "shove", they are more confused than before. The fact is - when it is SEEN (not in quotation marks) - this investigation does NOT require other people to push or pull you.
What is required to explain the lower matters and concerns, is simply the understanding that one is as one is, fully and completely, and all right as they are; any apparent separation between them and others, them and the higher, them and the lower, is due to consciousness as it is at this level, and let it go at that... and then, stop explaining! What is required to discover the higher, is simply the experience that one is everything, fully and completely, and all right as they are; there is no separation at this level and let it go at that... and then, stop discussing!
If a person could remember these two things, simultaneously, without thinking about them, they could see the order and harmony and majesty of the Universe in real time functioning perfectly, and they could experience Life itself, which is engaged in all the same things ordinary people are engaged in, but without the fragmented, sequential, binary, yes-no, off-on awareness common to ordinary man.
Stop torturing yourself hearing/viewing/reading other people's tortured minds (wherever you find them, including the Internet, including here - I'll certainly understand) trying to Explain "the truth of it all", from "western views", "eastern views", "new age views", and all the strange/weird "outlier views". Instead, and for a long time, learn to Hear "the truth of it all" from the only one that knows - having been "working on it" for many thousands of years - "simply" (though it isn't simple) by getting centered in the calm Middle of Yourself, where all the REAL action is.
Life is Alive, and you are in it, and it is in you. Listen and See. Life is speaking through mankind, including you, whether or not you can presently recognize this occurring for yourself.
Stop focusing on things you can't touch - like "gods", "demons", "angels", "mythical creatures", "mystical beings", "ghosts", "apparitions", channeled aliens from other planets and/or times, and all the other extra-sensory manifestations too numerous to name here. Start focusing upon your own consciousness - that knows your name, address, birthday, etc. - as it flits from thought to thought, feeling to feeling, crossing from one to the other, back and forth, day and night with no end in sight, being led around by the nose by all of this random nervous system activity, and Learn to stand aside this parade of elephants passing you by.
And, oh yeah, before it is forgotten again: Life is Alive, and you are in it, and it is in you. Listen and See. Life is speaking through mankind, including you, whether or not you can presently recognize this occurring for yourself.
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